Ordinarily, this would be a good question ...but with Aeroparque shutdown for repairs and EZE grinding toward gridlock (sending many passengers off via bus and train) ...this is promoted to GREAT question:
Fido can probably ride in his airline-approved cage-box in the furgon of any train ...but the good buses might not let him on without his owner being blind!Mike,I don't mean to bother you with a question that doesn't really fit into any of your blog categories, but I'm having a hard time finding insight into this topic. My dog and I will be traveling to Argentina from the States in January. We will be staying for 5 months, the majority of the time staying outside of Buenos Aires.I am curious about the travel situation with dogs in Argentina. I have our flight taken care of, but traveling around the interior of the country what I know nothing about. I would love to get him on the train, but I can't find contact info for the train companies. Bus, train, hitchhiking, or buying a motorcycle and get a side car for Fido, who is 62 lbs...these are what I invision as an ignorant traveler who hasn't be to South America before.If you would be so kind to give me a bit of insight, I would be very, very grateful.
It´s Sunday, so it´s hard to get through to the bus companies today.
Anybody have any experience with this? Please let us know as soon as you can.
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I have a large dog .. and I have not even attempted to take him out of town.
Getting a Taxi to take him is difficult enough.
I just know that no dog arrives in Argentina except by crate in cargo and there is a very complicated list of things one must do in a particular order to get the dog in .. health certificates , USDA visits, signatures etc.
After going through this ... I would not bother for 5 months.
Renting an apt here with a pet will cost much more than normal also .. and hotels/hostels are not that pet friendly at all.
I don't know the story but this sounds like a bad idea.
I've travelled with my dog from Miami to BsAs 5 times.
1st, get a health certificate from your vet not older than 10 days. You should also get it signed by a USDA vet, but in Argentina they don't ask for this when you enter. You will have to pay a fee when you enter so have some change with you, if possible have it in pesos. All this is good for 30 days. If you stay longer, you will have to go a local vet and get a certificate, and with this go to a place called "Lazareto" located in Puerto Madero,they will give you another certificate(fee also) to present at the airport when you leave. Try to get direct flights, dogs suffer less and its harder for the airlines to loose them.
Inside Argentina I can't help you since I never moved out of BsAs.
We had to get the USDA certificate and they did look at it at EZE.
Your dog has to be checked at the vet in the US and given a rabies shot ( regardless of when he last had one ) ..
We moved here so there were no fees, but plenty of paperwork .. we piled up the fees in the US preparing.
We never had to see a vet here, upon arrival, although since we live here, we do have a vet.
Best thing to do is call the USDA wherever you are, ask them for a list of what you need .. get a list from the Argentine website and get to work.
It is a lot of work and stressful, since you don't want there to be a problem with the pup being here and staying here.
Also be sure of the size of the kennel you put him in and what he needs. The shortest flight I think is Miami at around 10-11 hours? We flew from Houston so it was a horrible long flight, I was so thankful the dog was alive when we got here !
I won't do this to him again.
Mike, thanks for posting this, and helping me out.
I've received some good insight into the situation I'm getting into with this desire to bring my dog.
I do have a couple more questions, if anyone would mind providing some more insight, that would be great. This has really been the best forum to gather information, so thank you all.
1. Is screwworm a big problem in Argentina? This is said to be what they are checking for in the examination for the certificate to get him back in the States.
2. Not dog related, but I may want to drive there. When asking the consulate's office, they said my American driver's license would work. From other websites it says I need an Inter-American Driving Permit. Any experience with this?
It's always an issue with everything in other countries. I alaways say the same..."it depends". For example, a-broad got a USDA cert and they checked it, I never did and they only checked the cert issued by the regular vet.
I was stopped by the cops once(routine stop) and my Florida license was OK. I've heard of friends who presented the International Permit and the cop did not know what it was.
One other thing, if you fly from Miami it's only 8 hours plus the stay before and after the flight, it ends up that your dog will be around 12 hours without a poop break. Make sure you don't give him food since the night before and the morning of the flight, only some sips of water.
American charges 150$ per dog per flight. The issue with the screwworm is mainly for large animals and mostly cows.
When you re enter the US, customs will ask for your certificate and that is all.
This is all very helpful. I love my dog and don't wish to leave him again, for another 5 months. However he does have a wonderful, familiar home here. I want him to experience what I do...especially since I'll be worknig farms mostly during my time in Argentina...but it seems I may be a little unrealistic, and that I may be putting too much stress on him and myself to make this work. I have to decide within the next two weeks if he is coming or not in order to plan appropriatly. Y'all have provided input that has been invaluable in helping me make an educated decision. Thank y'all for the insight.
Zachary, I brought my dog with me because we knew we were going to be living here for years.
Otherwise, even if we had been here for months, I would have left him home.
Flying dogs is really not something you want to do unless there is just no other way ..
Start reading about Flying dogs on airplanes and get a good picture of not just how to manage but what can go wrong.
I only know there is a bacteria/parasite here that dogs can pick up just by smelling things in the park and it makes them pretty sick and they need all kinds of care and medicines .. Pup got this twice, then he got a shot for it. But the shots don't last forever..
Your pup will sit around in an unfamiliar place all day while you work .. I don't know how much fun he will have :)
Good luck with your decision.. I totally understand how hard it is .
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